Hugo: Hi Chantal. What did you think of the talk, then?

Hugo：嗨，Chantal。那你觉得这次座谈怎么样？

Chantal: Hi Hugo. I thought it was good once I’d moved seats.

Chantal：你好，Hugo。我想，一旦我换了座位，它就会很好。

Hugo: Oh – were the people beside you chatting or something?

Hugo： 哦，你旁边的人是在聊天还是什么？

Chantal: It wasn’t that. I went early so that I’d get a seat and not have to stand, but then this guy sat right in front of me and he was so tall!

Chantal：不是的。我去得很早，这样我就能找到一个座位，不用站着。但后来有个人就坐在我前面，他很高！

Hugo: It’s hard to see through people’s heads, isn’t it?

Hugo：要越过别人的头顶看过去很难，不是吗？

Chantal: Impossible! Anyway, to answer your question, I thought it was really interesting, especially what the speaker said about the job market.

Chantal：不可能。总之，回答你的问题，我认为这真的很有趣，尤其是演讲者对就业市场的看法。

Hugo: Me too. I mean we know we’re going into a really competitive field so it’s obvious that we may struggle to get work.

Hugo： 我也是。我的意思是，我们知道我们要进入一个竞争非常激烈的领域，所以很明显我们可能很难找到工作。

Chantal: That’s right – and we know we can’t all have that ‘dream job’.

Chantal：是的，我们知道我们不可能都有 "梦想的工作"。

Hugo: Yeah, but it looks like there’s a whole range of … areas of work that we hadn’t even thought of – like fashion journalism, for instance.

Hugo：是的，但是看起来有一系列的......我们甚至没有想到的工作领域--比如说时尚新闻。

Chantal: Yeah – I wasn’t expecting so many career options.

Chantal：是的--我没想到会有这么多职业选择。

Hugo: Mmm. Overall, she had quite a strong message, didn’t she?

Hugo： 嗯。总的来说，她传递了相当震撼的信息，不是吗？

Chantal: She did. She kept saying things like ‘I know you all think this, but …’ and then she’d tell us how it really is.

Chantal: 是的。她一直在说 "我知道你们都这么想，但是......"，然后她会告诉我们事情的真实情况。

Hugo: Perhaps she thinks students are a bit narrow-minded about the industry.

Hugo: 也许她认为学生对这个行业有点狭隘的看法。

Chantal: It was a bit harsh, though! We know it’s a tough industry.

Chantal: 不过，她有点刻薄！我们知道这是一个艰难的行业。

Hugo: Yeah – and we’re only first years, after all. We’ve got a lot to learn.

Hugo: 是的，而且我们只是一年级学生，还有很多要学习的。

Chantal: Exactly. Do you think our secondary-school education should have been more career-focused?

Chantal:是呀。你觉得我们中学的教育应该更加注重职业发展吗？

Hugo: Well, we had numerous talks on careers, which was good, but none of them were very inspiring. They could have asked more people like today’s speaker to talk to us.

Hugo: 嗯，我们确实有很多关于职业的讲座，这是好的，但是没有一个非常激励人心。他们本可以请更多像今天的演讲者这样的专家来和我们交流。

Chantal: I agree. We were told about lots of different careers – just when we needed to be, but not by the experts who really know stuff.

Chantal: 我同意。我们被告知了很多不同的职业，只是在我们需要的时候，但并不是由真正了解这些行业的专家来告诉我们。

Hugo: So did today’s talk influence your thoughts on what career you’d like to take up in the future?

Hugo:那么，今天的讲座是否对你将来选择职业有影响？

Chantal: Well, I promised myself that I’d go through this course and keep an open mind till the end.

Chantal: 嗯，我答应自己要完成这门课程，并持开放的心态到最后。

Hugo: But I think it’s better to pick an area of the industry now and then aim to get better and better at it.

Hugo: 但我认为最好是现在选择一个行业领域，并努力变得越来越好。

Chantal: Well, I think we’ll just have to differ on that issue!

Chantal:嗯，我想在这个问题上我们的观点可能会有所不同！

Hugo: One thing’s for certain, though. From what she said, we’ll be unpaid assistants in the industry for quite a long time.

Hugo: 但有一点是确定的。根据她的说法，我们在这个行业里将会做很长时间的无薪助理工作。

Chantal: Mmm.

Chantal: 嗯。

Hugo: I’m prepared for that, aren’t you?

Hugo: 我做好了准备，你呢？

Chantal: Actually, I’m not going to accept that view.

Chantal: 实际上，我不会接受那种观点。

Hugo: Really? But she knows it’s the case – and everyone else says the same.

Hugo:真的吗？但她知道这是事实，而且其他人也都这么说。

Chantal: That doesn’t mean it has to be true for me.

Chantal: 那并不意味着对我来说也是真的。

Hugo: OK. Well – I hope you’re right!

Hugo: 好吧，希望你是对的！

Chantal: I thought the speaker’s account of her first job was fascinating.

Chantal: 我觉得演讲者讲述她的第一份工作很有趣。

Hugo: Yeah – she admitted she was lucky to get work being a personal dresser for a musician. She didn’t even apply for the job and there she was getting paid to choose all his clothes.

Hugo: 是的 - 她承认自己能得到一个音乐家的私人服装师的工作是很幸运的。她甚至没有申请这份工作，但她却因此而得到了报酬。

Chantal: It must have felt amazing – though she said all she was looking for back then was experience, not financial reward.

Chantal: 那肯定感觉很棒 - 尽管她说当时她只是在追求经验，而不是财务回报。

Hugo: Mmm. And then he was so mean, telling her she was more interested in her own appearance than his!

Hugo: 嗯。然后他却很刻薄地告诉她，她更关注自己的外表而不是他的！

Chantal: But – she did realise he was right about that, which really made me think. I’m always considering my own clothes but now I can see you should be focusing on your client!

Chantal: 但是 - 她确实意识到他在这方面是对的，这让我真的思考了很多。我总是考虑自己的衣服，但现在我明白应该更关注客户！

Hugo: She obviously regretted losing the job.

Hugo: 显然她后悔失去了那份工作。

Chantal: Well, as she said, she should have hidden her negative feelings about him, but she didn’t.

Chantal: 嗯，正如她所说的，她本应该隐藏自己对他的负面情绪，但她没有做到。

Hugo: It was really brave the way she picked herself up and took that job in retail. Fancy working in a shop after that!

Hugo:她振作起来并在零售业找到那份工作的方式真的很勇敢。在那之后去一家商店工作，真是有点奇怪！

Chantal: Yeah – well, she recommended we all do it at some point. I guess as a designer you’d get to find out some useful information, like how big or small the average shopper is.

Chantal: 是的 - 她建议我们都应该有这样的经历。我想作为设计师，你可以了解到一些有用的信息，比如一般购物者的体型大小。

Hugo: I think that’s an issue for manufacturers, not designers. However, it would be useful to know if there’s a gap in the market – you know, an item that no one’s stocking but that consumers are looking for.

Hugo: 我认为那是制造商的问题，而不是设计师的问题。不过，知道市场上是否存在空白 - 也就是说，没有人销售但消费者需要的物品 - 这对我们来说是有用的。

Chantal: Yeah, people don’t give up searching. They also take things back to the store if they aren’t right.

Chantal: 是的，人们不会放弃寻找。如果他们买到的东西不合适，他们也会把它们退回商店。

Hugo: Yeah. Imagine you worked in an expensive shop and you found out the garments sold there were being returned because they … fell apart in the wash!

Hugo: 是的。想象一下，你在一家昂贵的商店工作，然后发现那里销售的衣服在洗涤过程中竟然散架了！

Chantal: Yeah, it would be good to know that kind of thing.

Chantal: 是的，了解那种情况会很有用。